An Inconvienant Truth

[``Jennifer MacKenzie]

Ah, yes, I know this is a little out-dated, lol, but we've had a spot of this pop up in the chat-box, so it seems that people still feel strongly about the topic of Global Warming.

:points to hit:
what is it
does it exist?
who's responsible?
what can we do to fix this?
what will happen?
what won't happen?
What's the world supposed to be like in 100 years?
is out government lying to us?
:please use facts to support your statements and please check your sources:
:if there's anything else that needs to be addressed about Global Warming or the non-existance of thereof, don't hesitate to include it into the debate:

:let the games begin:

[Yuliya Dukhkin']

I believe very strongly in Global Warming. People seem to not want to believe in it just because it's convenient and they're too lazy to do anything about it. It's kind of obvious that this is true. The ice caps ARE melting, and, I know it's cliche, but, the polar bears are getting forced farther and farther back because they need the ice to hunt and it's cracking too fast.

People seem to not have enough time to actually research this stuff. Right now, the earth should be getting colder, not warmer, yet, guess what? It's getting warmer. One of the results of Global Warming was actually Hurricane Katrina. As Global Warming progresses, we'll start to see more hurricanes, storms, and floods, because the ice will be melting into the ocean and making it rise.

Sorry, but, when glaciers are falling into the ocean, it's obvious that we have been misusing and abusing the earth. And one of my other arguments is, even if by some small chance that Global Warming didn't exist...why should we NOT help the earth? Why should we NOT invest in renewable energy? Why should we NOT take care of our rainforests? Why should we NOT try to save endangered species?

[Deimos Tokarev]

What bugs me is why people are so against it. What harm does saving water and energy do. I mean if you do save energy. Everybody wins

[``Jennifer MacKenzie]

Well - there are a lot of people in the world that are just plain lazy. To actually get off their high horses and lift a finger to do something that they really don't see as "neccessary" is a waste of time to them. I mean, really, saving energy? Why should they do that??
*pictures stuffing them inside a washing-machine and turning said machine on*

[Meg Serras]

I have nothing against doing all those things to help get rid of the supposed Global Warming. I'm just kind of annoyed at the idea on principle. I mean, think about it. How egotistical is it to believe that about a hundred years of human technology is enough to have an effect on a global scale. I personally believe it's kind of both. It's a natural cycle, but we're making it worse.

[``Jennifer MacKenzie]

right - it is part of a natural cycle (just look at history and see for yourself) - and yeah, large quantities of humans + only so much space + tons of needless crap = making everything worse

and no, not everything that's been created is needless; just most of it =)

[eoinannan]

I personally believe that Global Warming is not the problem that we think it is. Does that mean that we should do our best to keep our earth clean, and keep working on making these more efficient, “green”, and all around better for the world? No, of course not. Striving to do those things are admirable, and should be continued.

I just do not think that Global Warming is really happening, or rather, the globe may have been warming. However, I do not think that it is a) caused by humans, b) that it is a problem, and c) that many of the issues brought up (including melting ice caps and polar bears being driven to extinction) are not actually issues.



On the Greenhouse Effect:

Global Warming has come to mean extreme greenhouse warming of the atmosphere leading to catastrophic environmental consequences. The first Link I have posted below covers this topic in depth, but what they basically say is that studies have found it is not really happening.

“This hypothesis predicts that global temperatures will rise significantly, indeed catastrophically, if atmospheric carbon dioxide rises. Most of the increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide has occurred during the past 50 years, and the increase has continued during the past 20 years. Yet there has been no significant increase in atmospheric temperature during those 50 years, and during the 20 years with the highest carbon dioxide levels, temperatures have decreased.”

They go through several paragraphs detailing how they came to this conclusion, and the rest of the article goes through how this has actually been beneficial to the Earth, but I thought the above quote summed up their argument nicely.


On melting Ice and Polar Bears:

The second link I have posted covers this issue.

“According to reports from the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) that reveal that almost all the allegedly “lost” ice has come back. A NOAA report shows that ice levels which had shrunk from 5 million square miles in January 2007 to just 1.5 million square miles in October, are almost back to their original levels.

Moreover, a Feb. 18 report in the London Daily Express showed that there is nearly a third more ice in Antarctica than usual, challenging the global warming crusaders and buttressing arguments of skeptics who deny that the world is undergoing global warming.

The Daily express recalls the photograph of polar bears clinging on to a melting iceberg which has been widely hailed as proof of the need to fight climate change and has been used by former Vice President Al Gore during his "Inconvenient Truth" lectures about mankind’s alleged impact on the global climate.

Gore fails to mention that the photograph was taken in the month of August when melting is normal. Or that the polar bear population has soared in recent years.”

This is only a few paragraphs from the article, but I think it gets the point across.

On a personal level, just from what I have observed myself, it does not seem like the world is getting hotter. (In fact, right now, I wish it would.)

One thing I’ve found interesting when I was talking to my mom, was that when she was a teen, the big scare was that we were headed for another Ice Age, and before that, there was a Global Warming scare. To me, is seems like we are in a cycle, going from hot to cold, to hot again, and if the second article I gave is correct, we are heading back to cold.

I’ve been living in Hawaii for four years now, and normally, even in the winter, we don’t usually get weather below the sixties. But these last few weeks, we’ve been in the low fifties, and at night it got down to 46 degrees, just one degree off from the record low. It’s never, in all my years of living here, this cold before, and certainly not in the middle of the day.

Now, I admit, this could just be a freak thing. However, is does seem to match what that article was saying.

With all that said, I think we should work just as hard to make more things “green”, not because we have to, but because we should.

Anyway, that’s just my opinion, and I hope you take the time to look at the articles.



On the Greenhouse Effect
globalwarminghoax.wordpress.com/2006/10/25/science-has-spokenglobal-warming-is-a-myth/

On melting Ice and Polar Bears:
www.newsmax.com/newsfront/global_warming_or_cooling/2008/02/19/73798.html

[dianaholland10]

me k im not saying it doesn't exsist. But all im going to say is... time will tell.